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General DiscussionPLS help with Queen of Pain 3.4k MMR

PLS help with Queen of Pain 3.4k MMR in General Discussion
ywn

    i would be 10k

    fx

      I would be gaben

      BSJ. LGD

        euls is shit guys get forcestaff arcane boots veil. then mjolnir bkb pike. get the gpm talent too. 200 iq next level build

        StanceWorks

          @fx
          How much is "all your wealth"?
          Maybe if your serious...I could take that easy money :/

          Shou

            ^r u fucking dumb?
            Ur challenging a former 7k current 6.8k MMR player to 1v1 mid and expect to win?

            StanceWorks

              ^are You?
              If i win I get his bet, if i lose i don't give a shit. It's a win win, you'd be stupid NOT to take the deal.

              Plus I'm not bad at all so this shit might even be close.

              Eggard

                That escalated quickly. Thanks anyway :)

                StanceWorks

                  Your very welcome Eggard, hope you have a great day!

                  Rab

                    My build

                    Btw never get aghs and rushing orchid is very situational this patch
                    I haven't watched any of your replays but low mmr players often try to fight too much with qop instead of split pushing

                    Niskara

                      Aghs qop is garbage and useless never buy it now.

                      Eggard

                        Thanks guys. I remember Aghs being really great. I guess I sticked to my old builds too much.

                        I will try the veil euls build for sure!

                        A

                          this commnunity is suck

                          Eggard

                            I tried it. But it's cursed. I just can't win with QoP :D
                            https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3315561365

                            I will keep trying. There must be something I really fuck up with this hero now, but I can't figure it out.

                            ywn

                              u still failed to buy a magic wand

                              ywn

                                its quite simple actually u go here: https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/queen-of-pain/guides

                                u look at wtf items eveyrones buying and in what order and u do the same.

                                nwo if u REALLY want to tryhard u watch some replay or videos on youtube and see what kinda moves people make during a game and try to copy that

                                dunce

                                  There isn't supposed to be a faerie fire in rab8's build, it's supposed to be just 3 branches

                                  Eggard

                                    I bought Wand...

                                    I even had a QoP coaching some time ago. And it went fairly well even on 4.3k where I was at that time. But now I fail her at 3.4k. I have positive stats in each and every game so it must be more around the aspect that someone called: Splitpush more, fight less.

                                    I will try to force that.

                                    ywn

                                      some games u need to fight, some games u need to splitpush and farm, u cant just say "i need to splitpush more". its not always the best choice

                                      Eggard

                                        Well in this case it was annoying and long and tough and whatnot. But it worked....I finally managed to win a goddamn game.

                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3315732258

                                        I like the veil, euls build in general. Thank you all for helping me with that :x

                                        fx

                                          I like getting null triple branch null wand bottle boots vod euls. Reference from abed

                                          Yukimura Siregar

                                            https://www.dotabuff.com/players/221880682/matches?hero=queen-of-pain
                                            Forget the meta with 1st skill only 2 levels in early game. Qop is all about dominating the lane. Get level 4 1st skill and u'll always get at least unstoppable kill in every game. At least thats for me.

                                            Bu yorum düzenlendi
                                            Shou

                                              ^the whole point is that with max scream and veil u have huge kill potential, dagger doesn't give u enough dmg.

                                              Jacked

                                                but that dagger slow is 50%. nerf it

                                                Yukimura Siregar

                                                  yea i understand that. I just like the idea lvl 4 1st skill is for tilting the opponent xD. Cause its dps, they will be scared to lh, and lose their morale to stay in their lane.

                                                  Bu yorum düzenlendi
                                                  despair

                                                    ^wtf? maxing 3rd skill is more reliable combined with veil or orchid you could easily kill enemies

                                                    Yukimura Siregar

                                                      yep thats true, but i just like dps and slow from that 1st skill if maxed and still manage to kill alot. Well thats just my skill build tho

                                                      Shou

                                                        Ur skill build is just wrong
                                                        It does it's dmg over 15 seconds, and they can bottle between ticks.
                                                        U have almost no kill potential on a relatively snowball reliant hero

                                                        Yukimura Siregar

                                                          No kill potential because u are not used to that build and dont spam qop too much. I do back then max 3rd first in my main (4,5k). Its just my taste and i like to max 1st skill. Theres nothing wrong bro. Everyone has their own build. Like jerax invoker with desol+daedalus no agha or sumail with alchemist blademail. Just wanna share tho, But if u said my skill build is wrong and have no kill potential then u are the one wrong cause i kill alot :). Sometimes once u love ur hero so much u'll have ur own playstyle and ur own build. Once again its just my skill build okay :).