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General DiscussionPLS help with Queen of Pain 3.4k MMR

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Eggard

    Hey guys.

    I don't know what I do wrong when playing qop but I obviously need some help :)

    It's not like my impact is bad or anything but I kind of don't manage to end a game and I ask myself why that is.
    Mechanically I feel like I got this hero down better than 95% of my other heroes.

    Maybe it's also my item choices. Any advice is welcome!

    Thank you.

    https://www.dotabuff.com/players/12334251/matches?hero=queen-of-pain

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    Shou

      i feel like aghs is usually wrong
      dont buy mkb on this hero especially when u have bloodthorn
      idk what else im not a qop expert
      r u buying veil?

      StanceWorks

        The main thing to win games is to have a team push objectives when you get the kills. Many games ive won against qop where qop got fed mid and was strongest hero in the game and nobody pushed towers/rax. In the end we got farm and won. She's not a very good tower pusher but if u can combo a tower pusher(lycan, windranger, np, LC etc) u can win.

        Dire Wolf

          Most of your games are going quite long which is probably the issue, qop isn't very good in general and really bad late, I don't think she scales well. Idk what you build on her but rushing linkens and then aghs probably isn't it.

          ywn

            ur item builds garbage and u fEEd

            Eggard

              Most of my games I get orchid first. Maybe there's a better option?

              I like the veil idea tbh.

              @ywn-: I'm sure you can give better advice than that.

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              StanceWorks

                @Eggard ignore the 1k mmr idiot(ywn-) he doesn't know advice if it hit him in the face.

                Orchid is great item, linkens is good against heavy lockdown, if they don't have lockdown then get more dmg. Qop is a mid game hero so that's one of the main things. Either your creating space for a really late game hard carry or your ending the game as a team at 30-35mins.

                StanceWorks

                  @ywn-

                  https://image.ibb.co/gVCx0F/Screenshot_20170713_135647.jpg

                  Nice gameplay bro...make sure not to feed when your a core though :/

                  Sarllo

                    scepter inst good at all.. i mean, is not necesary for fighting but is great for creating space for u team (in adition of boots of travel)..

                    the best is to build veil + bkb/ linken/ eul + mjolnir/ orchid
                    also, u most uso the space u create (by dominating the game or killing ppl) and push towers.. her skills are useless on late game, and she is not a great right click hero

                    ywn

                      did i just get flamed by a 3k player

                      ywn

                        with 48% win

                        cartel

                          Can someone use the "im an above avg player" copy pasta here please

                          cartel

                            Also ywn god isn't 7k anymore *GASP*

                            ywn

                              Excuse me? my mmr is 3.2k and according to valve i am above average (2.1k) so my opinion must be respected and my analysis on the game is legit and im going on factual basis. I dont like to kiss ass of any pro without any reason. U have no right to critisize it u bastard .

                              faw

                                hahaha hah

                                ywn

                                  what about this my man StanceWorks33

                                  faw

                                    qop pre nerf LUL

                                    StanceWorks

                                      Ywn i looked at your recent games u feed yourself.
                                      I'm a good player, 3.2k does t do me justice. I just haven't been playing ranked, I did 80% unranked games, only recently started to move up. But idk why Im explaining myself to you when your arrogant and with some scrub ass replies. If you cant give proper feedback then don't talk, cuz "u feed alot" means nothing when u fed 4 games away yourself.

                                      StanceWorks

                                        I also like how you got triggered by your own stats xD
                                        Plus my windranger mid will beat your top 4 heroes mid... fyi.
                                        Thanks have a good one.."pro".

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                                        ywn

                                          is that a challenge?

                                          StanceWorks

                                            No it's not, cuz I never heard of you, boy.

                                            ywn

                                              what is it then?

                                              faw

                                                hahahahah

                                                ywn

                                                  the truth = pointless

                                                  faw

                                                    hahhaahah

                                                    StanceWorks

                                                      Give good advice, not that gay 2k mmr scrub bullshit. If you think your a "pro" act like it, seriously mmr isn't everything cuz not everyone has 8hrs a day to gain 150mmr per day.

                                                      arin

                                                        how do people even come up with this shit?

                                                        faw

                                                          "pro" act like it?

                                                          pros buyback in pubs and feed 24/7, being good at this game has nothing to do with ur attitude towards stupid questinos

                                                          StanceWorks

                                                            If you ask for feedback and a "professional" response is
                                                            "Feed less" then your response would of been better if you kept that mouth shut.
                                                            I'm sure the kid wants to improve his QoP and start winning, not seeing scrub ass replies with 0 intellectual input.
                                                            If I had 8hrs a day of dota, shit id be 7k and have all the knowledge, why WOULDN'T you give good advice to help people. Doesn't make sense.

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                                                            ywn

                                                              would of

                                                              yeah im done here

                                                              faw

                                                                why ppl wouldnt give proper advice? bc ppl ask those questions 10 times a day, and learning how to play is as easy as opening watch tab and spectating hte top game

                                                                StanceWorks

                                                                  *would have or would've* sorry for the auto correct, I don't even want to get started on writing mechanics because that's something that's out of your depth.

                                                                  ywn

                                                                    im sure it is and ur a genius who just doesnt have the time )

                                                                    StanceWorks

                                                                      @mid/carry/feed
                                                                      You are 100% correct. I don't even know what I'm doing here trolling peeps...
                                                                      Learn by watching some replays/analysis or guides and do some practice runs and go from there.
                                                                      That's how I went from 5-20 windranger to 25-5, practice and youtube videos/pro games.

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                                                                      StanceWorks

                                                                        @Ywn-
                                                                        now you're on to something... I AM a genius, just don't put full effort into things.

                                                                        ywn

                                                                          im not gonna try to help someone who doesnt even copy the builds used in tournaments and high mmr games

                                                                          StanceWorks

                                                                            ^ well... you said something that makes sense.

                                                                            Shou

                                                                              my 3k dude tryin to roast 7k overlord ywn, i mean K sorry typo.

                                                                              StanceWorks
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                                                                                Jacked

                                                                                  3k genius who would be 7k if he had 8 hrs a day. I feel like that too. Lol

                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                    I suck at qop. If u do qop things and play Super safe maybe u get all the kills at expense of your teammates. And find it hard to close off games yourself. And blinking too aggressively is an issue. Hard to master this aspect.

                                                                                    sbinalla

                                                                                      Lol threat

                                                                                      Sarllo

                                                                                        guys guys.. this thread is about helping the guy who ask for help..

                                                                                        fx

                                                                                          HOLY FUCK WHATS WRONG WITH THIS GUY LMAO. Somebody trying to flame ywn. You must defeat me before fighting him haHAA.

                                                                                          fx

                                                                                            I would bet all of my wealth for 1vs1 ywn and this 3k shitter.

                                                                                            fx

                                                                                              I also like how you got triggered by your own stats xD
                                                                                              Plus my windranger mid will beat your top 4 heroes mid... fyi.
                                                                                              Thanks have a good one.."pro".

                                                                                              Hmm... really makes you think:thinking:
                                                                                              Is this the same guy who said sniper is easier than brood and naga???

                                                                                              Väinämöinen

                                                                                                forever 3k detected

                                                                                                100% he screams at teammates every game because he is 7k and they need to respect his authoritae

                                                                                                fx

                                                                                                  Excuse me? I am a genius and according to mysef i am above average (90iq) so my opinion must be respected and my analysis on the game is legit and im going on factual basis. I dont like to kiss ass of any pro without any reason. U have no right to critisize it u bastard .

                                                                                                  Potato Marshal

                                                                                                    Aghs is kind of a mediocre item, an extra 85 pure damage for your ult and cooldown reduction is not worth 4200 gold most of the times.

                                                                                                    Planeskeeper

                                                                                                      I'm a 0.9k genius who would be 7k if I had 8 hours a day