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    Ryan

      who the heck cares

      I <3 lady music

        meepo op. plz dont kill my meepo.

        Cukong

          meeepo

          Nikkie the frikkie

            pick Alch=ez pts

            AuraOfLight

              Meepo is my favorite hero. Best hero in the game if played correctly IMO.

              Nimbus

                Doom is ma boy. He deserves a place in the meta, though he should still be a more situational pick. Icefrog let us have the dual- and tri-core line-up!

                Kagami-cchi

                  well I enjoyed playing meepo too :)

                  Positive Mental Attitude

                    9th!!!

                    Sei la

                      Meepo isn't OP or unhealthy at all... It's just another snowballing carry with strengths and weakenesses. Also, unlike techies it doesn't change the game completely.
                      The thing is: It fits Team Secret strategy and w33 is insane with the hero. Also, Secret's enemies simply didn't counter the hero properly. But removing w33's games and rechecking the winrate, we'll nothing special.

                      Doom, on the other hand, is a bit obnoxious.

                      Paitin

                        w33 meepo = op
                        not w33 meepo = not op

                        Boundless Strike in Gaben...

                          finally its' something new??

                          lol wait for 6 months before the same article repeats itself with another plea for change and then after the next patch after io becomes a mid hero you guys will be like 'finally something new' yay

                          this trend of making or breaking heroes every patch is utter bull shit....no hero should be so buffed that next patch they're so nerfed they no longer function in the meta

                          every hero should be balanced all round i know its easier said than done but that should be the goal instead of this repeat cycle of every meta making the past meta heroes redundant and just replacing them with new ones only to be repeated again

                          i mean seriously wtf is the plan here?

                          is this how valve wants to keep the game exciting and relevant?.....keep buffing previously obscure heroes and then nerf them to oblivion...keep the cycle repeating?

                          next update elder titan becomes hard carry? doom becomes shit again?

                          bring back storm?

                          troll? sniper?

                          why should there be 'meta' heroes instead of all heroes being made for the meta?

                          valve creates high magic nuking heroes declares new meta....next meta it says fuck that lets nerf them to shit and bring back some previous heroes

                          i mean cmon all heroes should be designed so that they have some relevance in the game no that one time they're like OP next time they nerfed to shit and their core items are shit

                          whats the point of having heroes like oracle, earth, titan, lycan in the game if they're not fucking relevant?

                          shaashe shotor

                            Meepo isn't OP. Meepo is perfectly balanced. He has many many counters and he can be picked in certain lineups. Stop complaining. It's like the guy who wrote the article is a 1k mmr noob.

                            Rosa Luxemburg

                              Forgot mid alchemist

                              †2DG†

                                @Dont Go Full Retard, Team

                                Idk if you're even paying attention, but with every patch the outliers are far less away in terms of balance of the rest of the heroes.
                                For example, while doom is the new leshrac, sniper,void, etc.
                                He's not quite as strong as those previous meta heroes, yes he's for sure extremely good but far less of an outlier than certain heroes have been in the past.

                                Ajani

                                  @Dont Go Full Retard, Team. All heroes are as relevant as you make them out to be. META in all its essence, is basically what people THINK is going to work more consistently ( risk vs reward ). well i do agree that trends leaves certain heroes untouched, the fact remains that they are still available. the heroes you mention all have brilliant skill sets, they just require a level of co-ordination that doesn't exist in pubs. shadow demon is maybe the best example in this regard. the POINT the meta exists is to reshape your learning curve of the game, as we get used to playing against a certain hero/line-up/strategy, thus keeping it interesting (new).

                                  Napoleon

                                    how could meepo like techies? the skillcap on playing meepo is way higher than techies.

                                    Boundless Strike in Gaben...

                                      alot of co ordination that doesnt exist in pubs.....got it....does it exist in pro matches? then why arent they picked on there?

                                      and you the chinese guy i think with the girl red eyes avatar....that wasnt my point at all who's talking bout outliers?

                                      im talking bout putting heroes into the game and then next patch basically removing them from it

                                      why make troll sniper lesh so OP when you know you're going to have to nerf them?.....and then when the nerf comes its basically a break....sniper isnt used anymore...troll isnt used anymore...ss and lesh are dead

                                      so what was the point exactly? as i said it might be something to keep the game new and i get that but overall why the huge nerfs?

                                      why cant they be reworked so that they can still be viable to an extent instead of basically being taken out of the 'meta' all together?

                                      i really loved playing storm :(

                                      KawaiiSocks

                                        Consider this - the game gets perfectly balanced with each hero being viable in the pro scene and public matchmaking. The glorious times start in Dota 2 and the competitive scene has never been this exciting and drafts have never been that versatile. There is not a single hero which is strictly better or worse than the other. They are all equals. In the drafting stage you now ban not the Flavor of the Month hero, but try to ban what the enemy team is good at playing. Now each team is forced to learn to play all heroes at a competitive level and drafters have never been more important since synergies and counters are the name of the game. Truly a masterpiece of a game.

                                        It goes on. A week. A month... half a year. Suddenly you realise that teams are now all the same - they all focus on this versatility and no man stands out on a particular hero since every time anyone gets good at a hero it becomes a permaban against the team.

                                        Even worse, with no outliers there is no need for change. We don't see a patch every 4 or so months - we get it every year and it is just hats.

                                        Now you need to push out new heroes to make the game more exciting and feel fresh. You push out a new hero every several months and balance them before each major. But with each hero there are less and less unique ideas. Suddenly all new heroes start feeling generic - mobility spells, disables, steroids etc. They are all just different iterations of existing mechanics. They fit in the whole idea, but they certainly don't feel new or exciting.

                                        Congratulations. You are now playing HoN.

                                        BlackNapalm

                                          just because troll sniper lesh ss got nerfed hard doesn't mean they're bad. it just means they cant 1v5 a team at any point of the game like they were able to before, which was goddamn stupid.

                                          [F]unky Panda

                                            Bring back Pudge fountain hook. Case closed

                                            BOOBA

                                              @KawaiiSocks Diversity is something which makes the game interesting. I would love to see different heroes every game instead of every 4 months. It is good that no one will spam one hero in competitive Dota because it will force players to be flexible and learn different heroes. How teams can be the same if there are different players who are good at different set of heroes?
                                              Also I don't see a problem with getting new patch every year instead of every 4 months. If the game would be balanced then why force changes every 4 months. Moreover Icefrog could finally focus on adding new heroes or items not only on balancing the game.
                                              I really don't see a problem with perfectly balanced Dota, but still it is almost impossible to do.

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                                              brunoha

                                                WE ALL ARE DOOMED IN THIS META, with all these doom picks XD

                                                Z0mBi3

                                                  w33 meepo Kreygasm

                                                  Banana

                                                    Refresher linkens new meta against doom

                                                    Mr Meow

                                                      Perfect imbalance is necesary in every game to keep it interesting. This was invented more than 20 years ago in Magic the Gathering and have been reused by every succesful game out there.

                                                      aLoNe.G5

                                                        COMEON YOU CANT KILL MEEPO MAN, its very hard to play how the heck you gonna nerf he!?!

                                                        FreeZing

                                                          Misery's slardar is :D

                                                          JoJo Part 5

                                                            I like boobs ( WR mid is so fucking popular)