General DiscussionA Good Carry to Break Through 4k MMR

Any carry tbh

^at your mmr, any carry can do, but at 4k, thats not the case

Sven/luna

@op
You missed the point
If you spam a hero, basically you first pick that thing, right?
If you can actually gain up to 3.8k by spamming antimage I'm sure it would be easier for you to grind with heroes who can actually pubstomp without playing against 9 people against you

Come on
AM is like one of the worst heroes to spam out there

bloodseeker

Invoker

Any carry if u are playing better than 3.7-3.9k

Sven Luna ursa.

Sven and Bloodseeker

Who the fuck wants to carry in 3-4k dogshiet tier. Srsls dude, go offlane and win gamse.

u mean if we put a 5k carry player into 3-4k tier he will fail to climb up?

@Juno 5k player will climb easily because of his strong mentality,4ks are so weak mentally,just pressure them and they are done.

Antimage aether lens is legit to counter bs rupture
Kappa

LO BWS ANY HERO TO 7kl LETS GO

Spec if you have someone willing to babysit you. People barely know how to deal with her in this bracket.

@1/2 smurf, can you specifically teach me that "mentality" because I think that "pressuring" is my main problem and fear. If I get a pushing offlaner, I am unable to last hit under tower and then I just end up with 30 last hits by the 10 minute mark. Moreover, in mid-late game, I am always scared of the enemies like BS who will just rupture me and kill me easily

As a position 3 and 4 player i can tell that i'm strugling to deal with sven in my recent game.
Also If my team doesn't have burst damage and i'm against a Necro i know we already lost if he isn't brain dead.

U DONT NEED ANOTHER CARRY, U DONT HAVE MAP AWARENESS ,BAD ITEMIZATION ,last am game u literaly die twice without a tp and he clearly walking with a ward in your lane, hope u improve i have the same mmr but ive not played in a week

i would say not a carry but rather support, since there are really lot of dotas without support in 4k, and at least i noticed that when supporting there is so much higher chance to win :)
if you really want to carry, go offlane phoenix, mid broodmother or shit like that.

Bro just play Necro , especially when team has low burst. You'll win every game.

@Kzoom, I had already given up on that game and I was just wanting the enemy to end fast.

lol ur lycan sucks

u need to watch all map all game amd use howl and maxing howl passive first
its hard for 3k to watch map at all

so i recomend u to stop playing it

any carry that can push and split push without relying on your team.

@lane its like my 3rd game as lycan. I'm kinda playing him like anti mage and really become annoyed when I can't push as fast as I can with anti mage. You are right, ever since I stopped playing anti mage, my split pushing and map watching skills have declined. =(

^ @op i recomnd u stop playin lycan unless u know to use howl when suports gank mid, pushing lane, fight or som1 is ganked etc but obv u dont know

stick with anti hes good , also slark, troll drow op too

viper mid.

i feel ashamed to have even mentioned viper.

@lord asbaat no u didnt

Just pick pa sure win

ursa/blood are braindead easy now

URSA 100%

arc warden working for me... luck is not... lost like 100 mmr to powercut today..also try midlane since carry requires a lot of space to get online

carry requires a lot of space to get online

thats why URSA WARRIOR is perfect. u can start fucking them immediately and never let up

i'm pretty sure position 1 and 2 have been swapped in this meta

@JDF8 ursa is good but i think the hero with more sieging power is better for climbing .. arc, meepo, voker can do both killing and pushing..

just buy deso and u are GOOD TO GO

yes meepo is always going to be the ultimate low mmr hero because he has the max farm potential and siege speed, meepo can get 2 lanes of rax before anyone tps if they are fighting somewhere else on the map

I was reading this thread while queueing for 3k ranked match, then got matched with OP Lord Asbaat himself as my teammate lol, his Arc Warden and my Earth Spirit, we stomped, it was a good +25 mmr, and I have a feeling that Lord Asbaat is gonna reach 4k soon, and soon I follow as well.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3367860275

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https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3367860275

Poor Sven bro, 2 ES as suports, none in his lane.

Blood, necro,viper sometimes pa but those 3 are

Any hero that I can't play will work

Look at his profile
Most hero use are tinker,arc warden,invoker and meepo

I bet 70% this kid using script

tinker in 4k 3k is hell if you are behind. ur guaranteed a win but it will take 60-70 minutes

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3356243621

taking 56 mins to win a NORMAL SKILL game because nobody wants to push isnt my idea of a good time

just ask for solo safe necro, or go mid necro, or duo off necro. Like legit people in high 3k and low 4k just have no idea how the hero works.

I dropped from 4.9 to 4.1 cuz I kind of stopped caring and threw most of the games, but I breeze from 4k flat to 4.5 with that hero easily.

dazzle.

Arc warden, you can solo kill players most of the time using him

@Abdal, I like to play difficult heroes. Everyone isn't a scripter like you ^^

play lc offlane ez wins..

Lich for carry. Take +150 damage talent at lvl 20.