General Discussionarc warden vs meepo

arc warden duh

arc because his clone dying doesn't kill the prime

what joke is this, arc is clearly harder than meepo

i've played and mastered both, and i can certainly say arc is way harder.

i also played both, not quite mastered arc. But you need more games to be able to play meepo than arc warden. Arc warden is harder to win because its a terrible hero this patch. Skillwise, meepo is harder. You need to be able to use at least 5 control groups for meepo but ure good with none with arc

I actually think arc is waaaay harder to use proparly

look at my profile guise

^"tim anjing"
I laughed so hard more than i should

Meepo is harder than arc. Meepo also has a lot of natural counter (axe, wyvern, warlock, es, witch doctor, sven, TOO MANY!).

when u were learning u instapicked meepo in ranked games cookie ?

I feel like arc late game is really hard just because you're likely to have many active items and you have to able to switch between clones and use all of them very quickly, but at the same time you don't need to be that incredible with him or micro (only 2 hotkeys needed) to be successful in most games, whereas it's more easy to do poorly as a meepo and as others mentioned, easier to get countered and feed as meepo. Overall I would say they have similar skill caps but arc has a slightly quicker learning curve

Of course arc is harder, dafuck are u guys thinking?

Arc is ez
Meepo is much more difficult
Played both of them and felt myself literally unkillable as late game 6-slotted arc while meepo has sooo many counters

Once u get 6-slotted as arc u can carry literally ANY game:
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3138394821

i used to be a meepo spammer a long time ago https://www.dotabuff.com/players/101857627/matches?hero=meepo

then i got bored

meepo you just blink poof and farm

only a little bit of micro goes into saving 1 meepo mid fight

while arc you have 2 heroes with 4-5 active items and 3 spells all needing to be used in a thousand different ways

while with meepo you just blink, poof and net chain.

i've clearly learned and mastered both heroes at some point, * well i haven't played meepo in a while, only a little on some 2-4k smurfs in the last year, but you get the point*

and arc is clearly harder

meepo is like harder to master but higher reward Id say

Very different I think. Microing harder with meepo, decision making a lot harder with arc. Depends what you are stronger at as to which you find harder.

"Mastered" you're honestly full of yourself, buddy
Go last hit creeps psychologically in a lobby.

i seriously did not expect this comment from you cookie... meepo is not about blink poofing. blink poof is the most basic thing to do with meepo. Any meepo player who is unable to control them individually is shit. If you did play 1 serious meepo game you will feel the tiredness in your fingers with all the micro managing you have to do all game. With arc warden you are mostly playing 1 hero at a time coz you dont have your clone with you all times and you dont have to use BoT 5 times in a minute

i think you can be a decent meepo even if you have a bad micro but good farm and decision making
i mean i saw a lot of players are bad at him just because they think the hero is all about micro, and don't understand when to push and power spikes
while an arc player with shit micro is shit

"Mastered" you're honestly full of yourself, buddy
Go last hit creeps psychologically in a lobby.

u doubt cuki of hell??