General DiscussionFor everyone complaining about OD and Invoker, here's your tip

xd.

Yea stop the OD how about the spec that killing your whole team ....

KAPpPA

isnt doom pretty ok hero againt spectre though?

Hmmm, Doom is only good because of Doom, really. Spectre is mostly a physical damage hero.
Doom has Scorched Earth and with Vlad and Shiva's (with Unholy Aura? Packleader's Aura? Critical Strike? Hurl Boulder?), he could be a good pick.

Parkleader masterrace

thats not the point, afair the point of picking doom into spec was in picking her off when she farms alone and waits to haunt in a teamfight

Early game, it should be easy pickoff but I doubt with a maxed Desolate and Dispersion.

just the tip

You won 1 legit game against OD as Doom, the other one he fed very hard in mid against Invoker. But still very nice thread.

Just won another against Invoker, thanks for analysing though, my observations are correct, I think.

Doom isn't enough. Just some nerfs (minor) to OD and (surprise) Spectre needed.

Op ur last doom game> lower HD than rhasta, no blink dagger, lowest kill participation. U didn't contribute much to the win.

Yeah I was busy farming for Shiva's and we had won by 20 mins

Agreed, Doom is mostly useful in team fights, though you might be able to gank in certain situations. Also, it's much better against people who play aggressive, to shut them down completely.

techies. bomb them to oblivion

Pugna

Pugna is actually the real threat to OD and invoker.

terrorblade for OD and spec

But then you have to play Doom

Spectre is perfectly balanced just gank her.
Invoker Isnt perfectly balanced but close.
They should worry about the numb nut heros Harbringer, Ursa, qop, windranger and The undernuffed useless Eller Titan, Pugna, Axe, Kunka, terrorblade, timber etc.