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Hanter

    I'm currently rank 16 Pudge: http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/pudge/players

    And on rank 15 and 14 there's 2 guys with a really low amount of Pudge games (especially Febby) but they're closer to #1 spot than me, does anyone know when this will be looked in to? Because I saw a thread that Dotabuff staff were working on this and that it would be changed right after Ti5.

    altskop

      Valve promised to change Voids model right after TI4.
      Alongside with all other promises...

      Seoulmate

        Febby deserves to stay there because he's on MVP, which automatically makes him a top tier player on any hero.

        All I can say is Soon™

        Hanter

          @Altsk0P, Dotabuff staff isn't valve bro :D

          @ Salza, if you're a pro player you get guaranteed top 100 in any hero no matter how many games or kda or win rate you have, just because you've played in a tournament you go up massively in points from just casual games.

          npc
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            Hanter

              @Kitrak, that's not really how it works, if you have a insane amount of games on 1 hero but have low mmr/low kda/low win rate then you won't be in top 100, I'm not saying this system is 100% accurate but it's good enough IMO.

              #12

                ^ idk there were a few guys who were ranked near the top with <50% winrates 4k ranks and >3000 games.

                npc
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                  efextoide

                    Because DBUFF is 100% around stadistics, like any system. Some people deserve to be there, some people dont. The system just cant be perfect and predict how good you are with an hero, thanks god being top 100 means nothing. People is smart and they know who are good to watch/learn

                    TripleSteal-

                      @kitrak
                      from another side, rewarding amount of games excludes random deviation, cz u can get insane winrate on low amount of matches with a relatively high chance, without even being any good on given hero.

                      however, a good way to solve this would be to add some division above diamond, cz I think I got D10 when I had 4.9-5.0 (which is meh), and always keep it this way unless I play unranked.

                      also I'd say this tops are not representative in terms of giving info on who's best on some hero; it's aimed mostly on satisfying 4ks' ego (hueHueEhuehue).

                      SalaciousCrome

                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1703420137 Hard times my bru

                        -01:07Shadow Fiend Shadow Fiend disconnected.
                        -01:04Windranger Windranger paused the match.
                        -01:04Shadow Fiend Shadow Fiend reconnected after 12.
                        -01:04Huskar Huskar unpaused the match after 13.
                        08:47Abaddon Abaddon: this sf is beyond handicaped.
                        08:58Abaddon Abaddon: 0played with him last game.
                        09:02Abaddon Abaddon: literaly 20 min afk juingle propeth.
                        13:19Anti-Mage Anti-Mage: rofl.
                        17:05Abaddon Abaddon: finish.
                        17:07Abaddon Abaddon: report.
                        17:07Huskar Huskar: u are good.
                        17:09Abaddon Abaddon: sf.
                        17:19Windranger Windranger: you fucking just now got this chest?.
                        19:42Abaddon Abaddon: kill him.
                        20:28Huskar Huskar: LOL.
                        20:32Huskar Huskar: THAT ABUSE.
                        20:38Windranger Windranger: die.
                        20:40Windranger Windranger: muted.
                        20:40Huskar Huskar: Xd.
                        23:08Windranger Windranger: CAST ILUMINET.
                        24:42Centaur Warrunner Centaur Warrunner: NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO.
                        24:49Anti-Mage Anti-Mage: do u have wards everywhere .
                        24:52Anti-Mage Anti-Mage: fuckin hell.
                        27:48Windranger Windranger: why alwasys shit in team.
                        27:49Windranger Windranger: why.
                        28:23Keeper of the Light Keeper of the Light: players get fucking worse the later the night gets.
                        28:33Anti-Mage Anti-Mage: what a joke.
                        28:39Huskar Huskar: husK).
                        29:21Windranger Windranger: zeros.
                        29:28Windranger Windranger disconnected.
                        29:33Abaddon Abaddon: when abadon is best player in the team.
                        29:37Abaddon Abaddon: u know its gona be tricky.
                        29:39Abaddon Abaddon: to say the least.
                        30:29The Radiant have won the match.
                        30:32Keeper of the Light Keeper of the Light disconnected.
                        30:35Abaddon Abaddon: report sf .
                        30:36Abaddon Abaddon: thx.

                        Hanter

                          @Triplesteal, I'm 4.7k solo and 5.2k party and I'm Diamond 10/10 maxed out on Pudge which I believe is highest because I'm sure I can't get up to Professional Division because I've never played in a tournament before, but I can tell you this though I've completely mastered this hero, I definitely know what I'm doing considering I'm stomping 9 out of 10 games with Pudge mid against anyone that goes mid against me. Before you say that I play against 4ks etc, I was in a party ranked game and 3 of us were 5k, I played against a TA mid, his solo mmr was 6.2k and party was 5.5k I went 3-0 on him, played against a 5.4k+ Shadow Fiend not long time ago, was in 3 stack party again and somehow I managed to get Kuro and Jerax in my team and I went 2-0 on the SF almost 3-0 but I denied myself because I made a small mistake and he ran away with 3 hp. Sometimes ofcourse you have bad games that's why I'm saying 9 out of 10.

                          Kuro/Jerax match: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1741542560
                          MMRS in that match: http://i.imgur.com/F9PfeYo.png

                          @Badgersan I've noticed I often get ALOT of flamers/trashers/complainers in my team, I always try to calm everyone down or just mute players that flame when someone makes 1 mistake, even my friends tell me that they don't even get that much and the funny thing is my mmr is never stable, 2 days I just get such bad players that already give up on first blood that I went from 4750 to 4300 in 2 days then 2 days after I had a good team and I went back to 4650.

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