honestly im curious about this too, i started dota and play almost entirely with my roomates, should i be playing more solo queue to avoid getting a lower mmr by accident?
So in other words,there is a 0% chance of getting to the 4.5k bracket in mmr? anybody experimented with this so far? i started playing very well when i soloed my first 10-15 games and then it started going downhill with alot of toxic teammates. i believe valve has a system to prevent you from winning games all the time and keep it at a 50/50 winrate
I did. I was playing with friends from time to time and then some by myself. I got calibrated at 4450. I tried it this summer because a friend told me that it is now impossible to get calibrated at 4k. I didnt play with them all the time though. I just played less then half of the games with them. You need to spend so time alone in pubs as well for an accurate mmr calibration i believe.
ye, if 100% of your normal games are party, your solo calibration will start from normal skill i guess. if you win them in a row, you might reach VHS by the end of them.
i'm 3.5 K solo , i started at 2.0 solo at the start of this year, can't wait to hit 4K soon, you smurfers disgust me. >.> Then i can say i climbed 2000 whole MMR, not only for solo, but for party too, cause i started at 2.0 party as well. O_O
Pretty sure you start at your hidden party mmr for both your solo and party. I am certain on this unless they changed something in the last year.
solo mmr is based on hidden solo plus calibration, which can change it by up to ~2000
party mmr is based on hidden party mmr plus calibration
besides that, all these 4 mmrs do not depend on each other
@triple so you're saying that if I made a solo only account for non rank and then played my party calibration games I would start at 3k mmr and that my max would be 5k? I can tell you this is wrong from experience during the comp boosting era.
I believe the system doesn't differentiate between party/solo pre 13 and only uses winrate to compute your hidden mmr which is then used as the starting point for your calibration games. Also I know someone who calibrated a 2-3k account to 5.4k which leads me to believe you gain/lose a max of 250 mmr a game.
no hidden mmr is same as calibration
only difference is, they multiply your stats and shit during calibration a lot cuz u can lose 500 mmr in one calibration match
Yeah that is what I said your hidden mmr is the base point for both your solo and party mmr for the calibration games.
how much has vroksnak paid you so you'd remove his tag? kek
word of advice, don't blog about "mmr experiments" when you're borderline 4000 and can't figure out the basics of matchmaking
and whats the thing with Dire side. I heard that if y o u have a higher MMR stack you will start on Dire.
is that true? And why dire is "worse" side? I see almost anyone got a -50 win or atleast a lower than radiant winrate
at the bottom of wave's main account's profile it'll say "this player is not eligble for top player rankings" or something.
Calibration myths
This is my main, but my alt recently got calibratged at 4180 after winning 8/10 calibration matches, of which I was 7/7 and lost 2 of the last 3. Because it shows what your teams average mmr was I was guessing I was around 3850 before calibration, and gained about +- 60mmr per game, maybe more biased towards the earlier games
Thus calibration games dont matter as much as most make it out to be, though if you are struggling to win more than 60% unranked at high skill than you probs wouldnt do well in above 4k anyways
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/213720703
Those are the games I played, just first picked NP every game, and even in the games we lost I did alright. The High skill game was with a mate
I think wave makes a good point about Vroksnak
The top profiles in Dotabuff are obviously not legit, makes it pretty lame , why does dotabuff not fix this but moan at someone for having too many Dire games?
Unless I'm completely misunderstanding this, it's "Abuse the system, get to the top and if you pay we will allow it" --> Makes the rankings a joke?
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So i know that alot of people who smurf their accounts typically create a new account and then proceed to solo queue by themselves. They then grind about 150-160 solo pub games by themselves before reaching lvl 13 and then proceed to do the usual calibration TBD thing and get their respectful mmr in regards to their skill bracket lvl. Just wondering,What will happen if you grind all 150-160 games with a party(2-5 man stack). how will calibration be like?? ( Party in Very high skill/high bracket)
PS: we all Winrate,KDA,and other stuff plays a role in calibration. So any comments on this?