General DiscussionVery good GPM as split pusher or rat

800 gpm is great

You can't really set a straight value as it depends on how well things go.

+800 GMP is great but you probably won't have 800 GPM if the game takes longer

Luxon

You are right. Ofc. But give me 3 scenarios with GPM then?

moer than that worry about the timinf for your items

15 min bf at the latest 20 min manta bf and vlads 30 min 6 slotted

i dont think i've ever hit 4 digit gpm in a real game, but 900 gpm is probably "very good" and 700-800 average as antimage with good map control

if you are freefarm you should be able to have a 12-13 min bfury by pushing the lane and killing camps with treads roh ror, especially on dire

ofc ur gpm depends heavily on not dying

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/982891701

rat style am cant help if they defend one by one and choose to hop on the feed train

30 min 6 slotted see? just follow what i told you. Every min you're alte, the more useless you are and the harder to get the next item it will be

I've watched a lot of Zenoths replays, and he is a great farmer, but I am always amazed at how much space the enemy team gives him :)

Id say anything above 700 is good enough

wow, how did u get 450 lh on 35 min???????????????????

I CLAP FOR U

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1002765610

This zenoth game has to be a record... 550 last hits in just over 30 min... crazy
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1366140228

yeah but it's terror blade, every terror blade game needs to be adjusted down by like 30% and that's what a normal farming carry would have. still damn impressive though

templar is better to farm and rat than these ones

600-1000 gpm in ranked games proven possible .. It depends on the situation .. Your kda your fvkin lh your tower last hit and your fvkin decision making..

Zenoth is a farming machine. I've only managed to fluke that 1k gpm 1 time. Your GPM depend on how well you execute farming in the game to get that kind of GPM, things like not missing the last hit on towers, not missing stacks, macro and not dying of course.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1361754681

have to agree about TA, much easier to last pick her in solo ranked after the update that shows the highest mmr player

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