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Mjolnir on AM in General Discussion
Jay Ashborne

    Is this a thing? With like early vlads or something. I swear I've seen this somewhere.

    Zenoth

      there was a post here about it recently that got flamed pretty hard, it was a build done by kuroky once

      it outclasses bfury for single-target DPS by a significant margin, but is inferior in terms of farm

      late game it is not horrible for striking a balance between DPS and pushing over Bfury. Early game... slightly more questionable.

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      Jay Ashborne

        I think it was KKY in CD or something. Lane was rough and supports couldnt do shit so went to make space elsewhere so fury would of been late ish but I don't really play am, I wouldnt be able to say how late is too late. meh

        273

          2 days ago a Normalskill guy was flamed for question it ;)

          What i think:
          Antimage needs regen for be jumping around the map getting farm.

          Also try vanguard, drums, vlads, sange and yasha.

          Vaikiss`742.

            am has 1 build

            am has 1 playstyle

            гриндр

              If it only gave him mana regen & work fine against ancients...

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              Jay Ashborne

                You are the highlander Valkiss. We know.

                @imprecis yeahhh i was noticing that. All the tread swapping inthe worrld doesnt help nearly enough for you to blink around the map and still engage.

                Eric

                  Both Mana Break and Mjollnir/Maelstrom are unique attack modifiers. Battle Fury is not, so you are better off with Battle Fury.

                  Dire Wolf

                    Zelda it's been explained to you in the last thread about this. The unique modifiers make no difference for mjollnir.

                    Proc's are only unique on the attack that they occur and then the override the effect so you can stack them as much as you want. Meaning on the attack that lightning occurs you will not mana break. But they can be used together just fine.

                    The only unique modifiers from items that are constantly in use and therefore don't stack are lifesteal that aren't auras (dominator, satanic, mask), skadi and desolator. Although lifesteal does stack with skadi, they just don't stack with other things.

                    Eric

                      Ok thanks for telling me (I didn't read it in the other thread)

                      The regen from Battlefury and damage are probably for the better over Mjollnir.

                      Jay Ashborne

                        I think he got it for the IAS vs medusa here, procs are nice too but the other game I am a little boggled about.
                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1019418516 < No bf also, so it's just unusual.

                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/982776752

                        Zenoth

                          desolator as seventh slot for am is important for breaking buildings ultra-late, it doesnt work on non-structural targets though

                          Slay Niqqers, Keyex & dzeets

                            +1 Zenoth, good thing pointed out there.

                            People don't understand the Maelstrom/Mjollnir thing on AM. You get Maelstrom (and leave it at that until late game) as a poor man's battlefury (lightning proc helps you farm faster) but you still need some regen in there to sustain yourself in the jungle.

                            The lightning UAM only overrides manabreak when it procs and does not work on illusions and is basically more damage than manabreak, lightning is 120 magic damage which means 90 damage on most heroes due to 25% magic resistance whereas manabreak is 38 physical damage which gets reduced by armor.

                            You upgrade the Maelstrom later in the game after you get a Manta and other items you need (bkb/heart/basher/abysal/butterfly). The synergy between butterfly + mjollnir and basher is very good, turns you into permabashing alchemist.

                            ArA

                              I think u can always go linken on a mjolnir antimage that would help u with the mana regen for flash farming and some stats and spell block can sometimes be really really helpful specially vs a doom or a legion even a bloodseeker that would camp ur jungle to kill u while farming sorry for my bad english :D

                              Dire Wolf

                                If you're going to farm perseverance for linkins you might as well just go battlefury.

                                Pom Pom 🍕

                                  About the regen; he got vlad's before maelstrom to get enough regen to farm with it.

                                  Rain

                                    fucking dotabuff retards like havoc spewed their bullshit wen i brt this idea up, lets see wat they say now