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General Discussionthoughts on 6.82c

thoughts on 6.82c in General Discussion
Numberwang

    bye back

    Kappa

    Zahard

      i dont think a +10sec to his cooldown is going to hurt him at all lol

      Satellizer

        * Primal Split cast time increased from 0.4 to 0.65 seconds
        * Song of the Siren cast point increased from 0.65 to 0.8 seconds
        * Buyback cooldown increased from 6 to 7 minutes

        hory shito

        Trodlabundin

          ^^and aghs stays the same. Right?

          Not much of a nerf.

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          THICC BABY SHUM

            void is not op because of his ult, its backtrack.

            Trodlabundin

              ^sorry, but: xD

              one and half gun

                * AoE Gold NWFactor reduced from 0.06/0.06/0.05/0.04/0.03 to 0.05/0.05/0.05/0.04/0.03
                * AoE XP XPFactor reduced from 0.3/0.3/0.2/0.15/0.12 to 0.23/0.23/0.2/0.15/0.12

                need to be nerfed a bit more

                Satellizer

                  spec nerfs + buyback nerfs

                  back to the crystal maiden tier you go illusion lady

                  Metallicize

                    ^^this YES

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                    Welt aus Eis

                      void was barely nerfed...

                      6_din_49

                        Bye jungle terrorblade!

                        THICC BABY SHUM

                          weird its like 3 hard carrys got nerfed.

                          Hassan

                            go away krob! Thanks

                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                              I really don't understand the Spectre nerf. She wasn't even that popular. And finally a nerf on Void in a true way, Chrono CD was just way too short for what it did.

                              Hex Sigma

                                can somebody explain me what's the explanation regarding the nwgold factor?

                                THICC BABY SHUM

                                  specter was nerfed because she was winning too many games, and icefrog dsnt like hard carrys that can doshit midgame, or like fucking void to oflane. but srs void needs a nerf on backtrack.

                                  Heathen

                                    ^Short version: players will get less bonus gold and exp for killing an enemy that is ahead of them than in 6.82b. (For solo/dual kills; 3person+ involvement bonuses are the same).

                                    Zenoth

                                      TB nerferino

                                      wtf 40% win rate in competitive and nerfed to hell

                                      THICC BABY SHUM

                                        looks like icefrog is playing in pubs

                                        Arek Akashi

                                          in game Conjure Image damage intake is 325% http://oi59.tinypic.com/35kl8i0.jpg

                                          gK

                                            A BIG FUCK YOU TO ICE FROG

                                            Satellizer

                                              @matrice

                                              thoughts on jungle tb now?

                                              Grom

                                                ^ Really hoping its not 425% lol

                                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                  It says "Additional Damage Taken" . 100+325= 425

                                                  one and half gun

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                                                    Grom

                                                      Oh shit it was originally 200% damage so +125

                                                      Arek Akashi

                                                        Just tried to jungle with tb , it's still viable imo u just need micro illusions and split incoming damage ( tank with your main hero some dmg 2-3 hits)

                                                        i made 3 wb yasha boots in 11 mins without getting towers

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                                                        Androgynous

                                                          > in game Conjure Image damage intake is 325%

                                                          "ADDITIONAL ILLUSION DAMAGE TAKEN: 325%"
                                                          100+325 = ?

                                                          > Conjure Image damage intake increased from 300% to 425%

                                                          If anyone remembers the old TB (or just ask Matrice or Zenoth), they'll probably remember that the tooltip in the ability said 200% additional damage, resulting in 300% damage taken.

                                                          6_din_49

                                                            DamageTaken = 100 + AdditionalDamage

                                                            PROTECTHIMFROMWHATHEWANTS

                                                              Just make EBlade projectile speed 3000 pls :D

                                                              Zenoth

                                                                its not consistent between the various illusion heroes, some tooltips will tell you exactly what it takes, some will tell you how much bonus it takes

                                                                i was confused for awhile at first too

                                                                Dire Wolf

                                                                  Yeah those are some pretty big tb nerfs.

                                                                  But what about the omni knight one? Seems pretty big, how much was the hp regen again before? Plus with aghs it would regen towers?

                                                                  Kryptnyt

                                                                    Nerfnerfnerfnerf (warlock buff)

                                                                    Fakovnik

                                                                      it was 25HP/s so not much, also towers yes

                                                                      He's an A-star student, y...

                                                                        25HP/second*10 seconds*5 heroes = 1250 potential healing every 150 seconds so it's still a major nerf imo.

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                                                                        #12

                                                                          Is the patch out already?

                                                                          Androgynous

                                                                            yup

                                                                            THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                              I love this patch, havent played it, but love it already, I think its more balanced. just need to nerf pl a bit more and mbe ogre.

                                                                              Fakovnik

                                                                                potential my ass.. 250.. it's like worse mek, with 150s CD, without armor,
                                                                                on lvl 16+ with agha

                                                                                Dipshit

                                                                                  You didn't use omni ult for the heal...

                                                                                  Fakovnik

                                                                                    why not, 1250 potential healing, lol

                                                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                                                      No you don't spam it for the healing, healing is a useful byproduct of the ult. It's basically a free second mek heal every team fight. Or consider treant living armor heals 195 on towers. With aghs omni's ult healed every tower left for more than that. I realize it's an apples to oranges comparison but it's a decent size nerf. The op is complaining about 10 meesely seconds getting added onto void's ult cooldown. This omni change looks like a titanic size nerf in comparison to that!

                                                                                      And personally, I think it's a good change. Doesn't change the playstyle/flavor of the hero or make him have obvious weaknesses or anything, just tones him down a bit. I like it.

                                                                                      Zenoth

                                                                                        Omni utl's heal was strong in one regard - it could heal all forms of buildings...

                                                                                        matrice

                                                                                          For tb, it's cause for some reason, they thought it was better to write +325%, and write 325% while meaning 425%. It's for all illusion like that.

                                                                                          Slammer

                                                                                            "void is not op because of his ult, its backtrack." lel

                                                                                            Jaq

                                                                                              The all knowing one will not be happy about this patch.

                                                                                              Low Expectations

                                                                                                They should have increased cd on the Krob spam. Fml also why no more AM buffs :(

                                                                                                THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                                                  he makes games boring, everone likes magic.

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                                                                                                  regulator

                                                                                                    should have removed void and es from the game imo

                                                                                                    THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                                                      why es?