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General Discussionhow can I play shadow fiend so effectively in MMR?

how can I play shadow fiend so effectively in MMR? in General Discussion
Adoramus

    I want the sf arcana so bad but also I want sf to have impact throughout the game.

    so that question is this? what is the most preferred item on SF? is it Dagger or Shadow Blade?

    Mid lane sf or safe lane sf?

    Any more tips playing him effectively?

    THICC BABY SHUM

      Mid SF With blink bkb dominator butterfly
      raise mid creeps go clear a camp and get rune repeat.
      Farm means victory.

      Harjanaz

        I even buy wards myself even though it delays bottle. you have to kick them down and keep them down lol

        Dunning-Kruger-Doto

          Safelane SF is wasted, cause you will fall off later on to harder carries.

          Midlane SF is situational, thats the problem! You will lose to many midlaners (TA, Razor, Viper, Ember) and you are an easy ganktarget (low hp, slow ms, no escape).

          So only pick him for mid, if you have

          a) Proper support, that ward your mid, so you can see incoming ganks+ are willingly to tp mid and babysit you if needed

          b) Do not get countered mid

          Most Sf just pick him in the wrong situation and feed.

          Linda | DotaExchange

            Play sf only in games when sf is good pick, don't insta pick him, it is rather harder not to counter him with all heroes, then way around.

            bottle > bots > midas > bot/pt > and now it depends.

            If you have good aoe disable in team ( tide, enigma , es ) then you go dager , then bkb

            If you have 4 heroes that doesn't have good aoe disable, go SB and simply focus on insta killing one hero when your ulti cd is off ( find pickoff's or in teamfights )

            BKB is probably a must, except few games.

            After that, it all depends on enemy heroes . Butter, Skadi, Satanic, Buriza, MKB, it really depends on heroes you are facing.

            p.s. For the love of all sf players, don't go mekansam on him. It can work if you are in stack, but if solo, simply forget it.

            Zahard

              get treads roa mek bfly and end. maybe bkb

              Oh Shit Waddup

                Mek sf makes me cry everytime. Best pub build imo is mid bottle treads roa drums sny domin ator ac. Blink if you have no set up stuns or if you cant position right. Dont be the initiator unles youre snowballing and wont die to their initial reactions. Bkb if you get blink

                Zahard

                  mek is legit and probably the best item you can get during early/mid game

                  Von Darkmoor

                    That SnY build seem'd to expensive at first but its only 15150 im gonna try it.

                    Linda | DotaExchange

                      It is good item on sf, but i would mever get it if played in solo q. Would get flamed, insulted trashed , which would be retarded. But a 7 min meka is great.