Agree with the mom, phase. Bkb don't really agree, I'd say get this after a few damage items. Rapier isn't always a realistic option but I think Butterfly gives the most dps apart from the rapier.
does the damage amplification from MOM happen before or after the damage reduction from mana shield?
This build contradicts everything I know about dota. I would say that Waga has gone insane, but zenoth suggested the same thing the other day. Maybe this is a conspiracy and all highly skilled players are trying to make everyone else play dusa like they have schizophrenia. Either that or I just don't know shit about DOTA.
Yeah its probably you don't know shit about DOTA (me too lol). But it is really effective, the farm is great. It also makes Medusa more useful early on as well. But this is good to see a really high rank player play this build. I'm noob andhave always went for malestorm after MoM but now I know what I have to do :)
I went this build long time ago, also got armlet and battle furry, it was lp match with some retarded normal skill friends of my so i didnt even try and went this build. Pros must have seen it and took some notes. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/897499741 What I have to say, I play text book dota.
Only way to know if this build is good is to try this 20-30 games in a row, then try some other build 20-30 games in a row, actually this is just a troll video from waga.
What about blink dagger (rushed if necessary) to complement or replace bkb.
Stone gaze cast time isn't that great, getting off the gaze disable with successful positioning can be very game changing and would more than make up the dmg loss from spending dagger money with the dmg amp from gaze as well disable time. Also another benefit would be that dusa can contribute earlier with constant use of gaze.
Would also provide added initiation range later on as a pre-empt against instant disables ala chrono, hex
Nice build but why not put a few more points into snake early? Assuming you are going to avoid fights until you get bkb+rapier, the shield isn't going to help much (if you get ganked, I guess it will) but snake can give you a lot of lane presence since that thing is so strong.
Well i liked the build but still i am not convienced. You are playing with good mates and on a good bracket that means when you get the divines up there will be people to guard you to not to lose em. But i assume on a 3k-4k match up people will fail to guard you or the player will think that now he can erase all 5 players at the same time and charge in. I dont mean every 3k-4k player i mean most of them. I agree with the mom, phase build and than to bkb with a myht hammer which i have been doing for a long time and now will try this rapier build but i think it needs a lot of focus. Ty waga you rock <3.
I just had to try this build and it won us the match quite easily, so thank you for that Waga. ;)
The downside of the build is what someone else said earlier in this topic:
Dr. Barber2 days ago
"(...)You might even have a good win% with such a build but every game you lose is a trip to low priority."
We didn't even lose the game, but the second I bought my first Rapier every single teammate I had said that they reported me. They also immediately started flaming me really badly. After wrecking the enemies in teamfights with double Rapier and winning us the game, they thanked me. That's the Dota community I guess...
Thanks for the S/O. Stream is always good.
Agree with the mom, phase. Bkb don't really agree, I'd say get this after a few damage items. Rapier isn't always a realistic option but I think Butterfly gives the most dps apart from the rapier.
totally agree with phase mom bkb, why get mom and no bkb, how in world will you ever attack? Also meastorm ca early tarm up items faster.
I like this build
Any pudge fuck this build so hard.
do a guide on kunkka and how not to carry me in games.
just play meepo
u 2gd at him
does the damage amplification from MOM happen before or after the damage reduction from mana shield?
This build contradicts everything I know about dota. I would say that Waga has gone insane, but zenoth suggested the same thing the other day. Maybe this is a conspiracy and all highly skilled players are trying to make everyone else play dusa like they have schizophrenia. Either that or I just don't know shit about DOTA.
Yeah its probably you don't know shit about DOTA (me too lol). But it is really effective, the farm is great. It also makes Medusa more useful early on as well. But this is good to see a really high rank player play this build. I'm noob andhave always went for malestorm after MoM but now I know what I have to do :)
I went this build long time ago, also got armlet and battle furry, it was lp match with some retarded normal skill friends of my so i didnt even try and went this build. Pros must have seen it and took some notes. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/897499741
What I have to say, I play text book dota.
Only way to know if this build is good is to try this 20-30 games in a row, then try some other build 20-30 games in a row, actually this is just a troll video from waga.
If its a troll video then its weak.
What about blink dagger (rushed if necessary) to complement or replace bkb.
Stone gaze cast time isn't that great, getting off the gaze disable with successful positioning can be very game changing and would more than make up the dmg loss from spending dagger money with the dmg amp from gaze as well disable time. Also another benefit would be that dusa can contribute earlier with constant use of gaze.
Would also provide added initiation range later on as a pre-empt against instant disables ala
chrono, hexhex is instant.
I tried it and lmao i pwned really amazing build it seem insane but its really viable! http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/959288378 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/959260243
Nice build but why not put a few more points into snake early? Assuming you are going to avoid fights until you get bkb+rapier, the shield isn't going to help much (if you get ganked, I guess it will) but snake can give you a lot of lane presence since that thing is so strong.
Stats will help more + u can do way more damage then the snake if u take its cast time :) i really love this build after trying it lol
Armlet good on medusa too, something she lacks at.
Well i liked the build but still i am not convienced. You are playing with good mates and on a good bracket that means when you get the divines up there will be people to guard you to not to lose em. But i assume on a 3k-4k match up people will fail to guard you or the player will think that now he can erase all 5 players at the same time and charge in. I dont mean every 3k-4k player i mean most of them. I agree with the mom, phase build and than to bkb with a myht hammer which i have been doing for a long time and now will try this rapier build but i think it needs a lot of focus. Ty waga you rock <3.
I just had to try this build and it won us the match quite easily, so thank you for that Waga. ;)
The downside of the build is what someone else said earlier in this topic:
Dr. Barber2 days ago
"(...)You might even have a good win% with such a build but every game you lose is a trip to low priority."
We didn't even lose the game, but the second I bought my first Rapier every single teammate I had said that they reported me. They also immediately started flaming me really badly. After wrecking the enemies in teamfights with double Rapier and winning us the game, they thanked me. That's the Dota community I guess...
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/974600063
Dr on medusa is fun.