General DiscussionTinker

Advice: stop trolling.

how am i trolling yes this is a smurf yes i am not new but i geniunely would like peoples advice

You know you don't need advice, you already know everything you need to about playing tinker, and you have hundreds of games played as tinker. If your really do need advice you already know it would come in the form of jungle farming guides that you already know exist.

i will choose to ignore you since you have nothing of worth to say :)

anyone else?

I love Concede.

why does concede remind me of those dumb bots on playdota that spam every board+ hes like an advertising bot for stupidity and ignorance

http://dotabuff.com/matches/780878254

You tell me what have I dont wrong and how could I improve and if its my fault or my team mates?!

what you have done wrong is killing supports and killing supports doesn't win game kappa

my tinker best tinker

^

Eh, perhaps I could be nicer and not post that gif, but my point still stands. So for my part i'll apologize and delete the gif.

@wave: I haven't spent enough time on playdota (or been banned from it multiple times) to know what you are talking about.
Though now that I look, it is kinda funny you bring up spamming bots while there are 5 "fluff" threads that you have started on the front page about basically nothing.

Advice 1: Don't pick him he is cancer.

Step 1: Don't feed.
Step 2: Get lots of last hits.
Step 3: Kill lots of heroes.
Step 4: Buy good items.
Step 5: Use the items.
Step 6: Win game.

would u recommend dagon sheep or eblade first wat order?

dagon eblade in pubs always man

In pubs, Bottle > Travel > Soul Ring > Blink > Dagon 1 > E-Blade > Upgrade Dagon > Scythe > Shiva's (Bottle in stash)

Atleast, if you're 3.5k trash (like me) it works everytime.

@ImChillYeee
your score is nice but 28k hero damage as tinker in a 48 min game is terrible for a EB dagon build
also considering your team had 1 abandon your GPM should be more than 600 because you have more space and more natural income

get soul ring before travel and hex before dagon (get ghost scepter or eul)

you'll be 4.5k in no time then

an abandon gives you less space not more wtf

losing a 3/8 brown boots blink WK gives you space

play tinker on radiant if possible, has access to 2 camps near mid as well as ancients.
tinker can stack the ancients using march without leaving the lane and also stack the two camps near the radiant mid lane at the same time if march is casted in the correct direction, and in the "main" jungle, he can hit 3 camps with a single march cast, which is one reason why tinker is better on dire.

anyways, skill build doesn't always have to be 1-1-4-1 by 7. sometimes you can go 2-0-4-1 since laser rank 2 doubles in damage making it good for mana efficiency / damage. also, keep skill points spare. depending on my lane opponent sometimes i go 2 into laser by lv 3 and nothing else if I don't plan on using march yet. only level skills if you are going to use them.

look at pro games where tinker is played safe lane for example, most of the time they only get 1 into laser and don't get anything at levels 2-5, because you don't want to put points into rockets if they don't get you kills, and if you get points into march and you need rockets to kill, then you've missed gold + XP.

i don't level rockets unless i need them to get a kill. if there's no kill potential you can just level march instead, but if the enemy can be killed, quickly double tap W while holding control to level rockets to rank 2. if I go 2-2-0 by level 4 then I'll go 2-2-3-1 by level 8, getting rearm at lv 7 or 8. lv 3 march is still decent for farming, the damage/mana cost ratio is still fairly similar.

try not to get rearm at 9 because the xp to go from 8 to 9 is higher than expected at 1200 xp, while going from 5-6, 6-7 and 7-8 all take 600 xp to get to the next level, so you might be in a situation where you're really far off level 9 but you need rearm immediately.

on items, you can go bottle > soul ring > travels > blink, or bottle > travels > soul ring > blink. soul ring before travels lets you farm the jungle once you get rearm, and someone else can take mid, so that your team is farming all 3 lanes + jungle while the enemy team is probably only farming 3 lanes.

in pubs dagon is a good choice because if you're playing tinker in pubs you're probably intending to solo carry the game, and you can't rely on teammates for damage. keep it as dagon 1 though and see how the game progresses. upgrading dagon isn't the best way to spend your gold, you might want sheep, or e-blade.

dagon 1 + eblade costs 100g less than dagon 5, outputs more damage even if tinker is only level 1 (for lowest possible int for ether blast damage), provides more stats, and also obviously the ghost form active for safety, so if you want to go the dagon + eblade build, try to go e-blade after dagon 1 if time permits. if you need immediate damage, then upgrade dagon and keep ghost or something. upgrading dagon increases your damage instantly while going e-blade gives you more damage when you finally complete it.

I refuse to give you advice, therefore spread the cancer.

where is the love??

thank you

also in your only two games that are recorded on dotabuff, where the fuck is your soul ring

so many buttons :P

that's not an excuse. soul ring is 1 extra button press every time you press R, and it doesn't matter when you press it. immediately after you use rearm, inbetween hexes or dagons, after blinking, before you use rearm, et cetera.

in the early game when you don't have many items that's not an excuse to not get soul ring either, and for the love of god do not sell soul ring so that you can keep bottle in your inventory, just put the bottle in the stash.