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Dire Wolf

    How do you feel about it? I used to think, eh it's not that big of a deal, overall Mirana is balanced. But I've been playing against her quite frequently recently and it's getting borderline overpowered. First teams can dive you, make a huge mistake over committing to a gank or team fight, your team ports in to turn the situation into a probable wipe and Mirana ults and they all run away. If you have disables maybe you get 1 of the 3-4 guys who made a big mistake.

    For initiation it's like having free smoke all the time. I guess it's our own fault for not dropping sentries everywhere but it's kinda of ridiculous when teams build around using this ult.

    I think it should be changed so it has limited range, a big range, but doesn't globally cover heroes. That would at least require Mirana to be in those ganks instead of "oh hey Mirana can you save our asses even though we played this poorly and deserve to wipe." Although if they do this they probably need to update silencer's as well. His global range is retarded too.

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    Wink

      Sentries everywhere. Map awarness. Dust. Gg.

      Quick maffs

        You know what dota lacks ? a global stun, i mean seriuosly think about it, we have global nukes, global silence, we need a global stun.

        Global 2 seconds hex, not imba at all.

        waku waku

          it's only good if mirana's team can actually do something when she ults

          whoji

            "Global 2 seconds hex, not imba at all "

            ya. turn dota into chickens fight.

            BenaoLifedancer

              when they lowered the ulti cost to 75 mana i was like OMFG! since then i skill ulti level 6 and roll with her

              Sieg

                The fade time really isn't as long as a smoke, you can scout around with smoke for targets but you need to be close to the enemy with PoTM's ult.

                Having some defensive observers instead of sentries helps more too. If you see her pop her ult, just run back to a tower and she just wasted it.

                Goldieee

                  5 riki running onto my sentry and we gonna punish them

                  Relentless

                    I just discovered that juggernaut will do less than half the dmg in omnislash if done during his own teams moonlight shadow. As he is invisible from moonlight shadow he does not autottack (the normal extra attacks done during omnislash). Late game these extra attacks do more dmg than the omnislash attacks, although there are fewer of them. But you are cheated out of these extra attacks if you omnislash with moonlight shadow going at the same time.

                    If moonlight shadow ends during Omnislash you begin to do extra attacks again so the order of the spells doesn't matter, only the overlap of the duration of the effects. Unless/until Valve fixes this its probably best to not play juggernaut on the same team as Mirrana.

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                    Fakovnik

                      annoying yes,
                      u just need good warding / or someone with good map awareness to see when they go ulti and then have dust sentry rdy

                      Gustaphos

                        I agree with the Mirana ult needing to be closer to the team, maybe a 2500 to 3000 range but not global. Either that or have it act like a smoke of deceit and still be global. One of the two would be preferred.

                        Zatara

                          Mirana's ulti is very powerful. Especially in pubs when sentries are not bought nearly as much. I have seen A LOT more people using it lately pretty effectively. Mostly in CM games. Anyone know why this is?

                          BenaoLifedancer

                            cause if u have mirana u have to skill it level 1 and abuse it due to its low mana cost? are u rly fucking asking u stupid fuck?

                            frostychee

                              Relentless - Will Juggernaut auto during mirana ult if he casts an active item such as phase boots?

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                              Relentless

                                I don't think so. I saw one example of that and do not remember it working. I will go back and recheck it.

                                The phase boots were not used until right after omnislash ended so its inconclusive.

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