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Relentless

    http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=122660
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    My dev forum thread. If you have had intentional losers ruin your game... Please support my thread. Only Valve can fix this and they must see that it is a real problem or they will do nothing for a year.

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    BoJack

      my bet: theyre creating a new report system that will be introduced in next big patch

      BoJack

        but @relentless, to be honest i heard of a few people BANNED from steam because of game ruining.
        all of them ruined a game that had a valve employee in it, though

        Mia

          You think that you know about game ruiners
          you merely adopted game ruiners. i was born in them. molded by them. i didnt have a decent game until i 5 stacked

          [Lk].Zano

            I think there are some threads around here from people trying to get into LPQ by throwing games on purpose and not managing to do so in the end. Maybe you could use them as additional prove?

            Relentless

              Just 2 months ago I got back nearly every report I made and quickly. I only bother reporting people who intentionally lose. Now I get no reports back and there are intentional losers on my team in half my solo que ranked games. It seems likely that any game they are not on my team they must be on the other team.... although the enemy only seems to feed couriers to us (making it an obvious throw) every 4 or 5 games.

              The reporting system has clearly failed since they introduced ranked matching. They need to fix it quickly.

              @Zano I already did. Please read and support my dev forum thread.

              In dota 1 throwing games intentionally was very common unless you were in a league or clan that effectively punished it. If Valve remains lax throwers will take over and throw nearly every game you don't 5 stack. In dota 1 people even put their friends on the enemy team to throw for them... dota players will do this. In dotacash there was a guy who threw over 1000 games. He had almost a 0% win rate. He eventually got to a negative TSR score and it caused a system crash.

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              BoJack

                to be honest i almost never see game ruiners. and i hope the report system stay the way its working now, cause its pretty ridiculous how people report each other for anything in ranked matchmaking. for exemple: http://dotabuff.com/matches/474484559 - got reported by all my team, they decided to blame the game on my even though i had over 2k ping for no apparent reason.

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                Relentless

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/474484559 <--- what do you call this? a 2k ping? Its an intentional loss. If you were really lagging that badly you would still not feed that much.

                  I have games with 2k delay. I have them OFTEN. My pc sucks. The screen freezes. I know what 2 seconds of delay and 3 fps feels like. I still don't feed like mad in those circumstances.

                  Your only item is shadow amulet. You intentionally lost the game. You probably do it plenty... which is why you want to post and lie and say you never see throwers.

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                  Dev

                    haha, had 2k ping, died 17 times, not even my fault

                    Hassan

                      ^ DeviLisH why you dodge EE-sama!

                      Relentless

                        Devilish... great ES play.. but your record deaths is 15. I guess you had this game on a smurf?

                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/437434042

                        Or if you mean this game... then yes. This is what it really looks like when you have technical problems. you play hard but die to much because of the technical problems.

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                        BoJack

                          @Relentless
                          i was actually having 2 k ping since beginning, checking through console every time. basicaly i tried to afk farm whole game as i couldnt do anything else (2k ping is literally unplayable) and ended up getting caught by mirana's ult / arrow a bit too much.

                          the reason for shadow amulet was to afk leech xp without dying

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                          Relentless

                            Fine... I'll watch the game.

                            King of Low Prio

                              the biggest problem with the system is egocentric players who report players for not being 'good enough'

                              BenaoLifedancer

                                im gonna keep throwing until they stop muting me
                                i dont give a fuck about people that dont lsiten to me and make the game harder tha it should which i respond with a THROW!!!! and leaving the game, etc

                                Relentless

                                  Atum, you changed your name to a troll name for this game. You do not play like someone who really has 2 full seconds of delay, you often are issuing commands in response to things that happen in less than 0.5 seconds. There is no way your delay was over 500 ms, probably less than 200 ms.

                                  I would certainly call your first death mid to SF a feed. You stood still in vision on 160 hp near a SF with a DD rune. You even moved out a bit so he could see that you were there and an easy kill because he didn't notice the feed attempt right away. So you gave him another chance to realize you were feeding. He was afraid it was some kind of trick or a bait... he waited 15 extra seconds before taking his free kill because it was so easy it seemed to good to be true.

                                  You play this game like a person pretending to be bad at dota to cover his intentional throw. You are obviously very fast and accurate with your mouse but pretend to be slow when it counts (ie when you can die by making a small misplay). You are as unhelpful to the team as possible without making the throw super obvious. I guess you can stop pretending since you now know that you can't go to LPQ anyway until Valve fixes this.

                                  You buy items and sell them multiple times to destroy your gold.

                                  I'm sure you did much the same thing, trying to hide your throw... in your intentional loss with Invoker the day before. http://dotabuff.com/matches/473174530

                                  People are not fooled. They can tell you are doing it. Unfortunately, reports are not working at the moment.

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                                  Delete所有选择

                                    You kidding?

                                    He threw 30+ games and reports did nothing?

                                    Mia
                                      Woof Woof

                                        avidity few reasons that i believe are behind lack of lpq on this acc
                                        1] 2reports per week[ l o l ] - many players mentioned being out of reports on global chat after someone called gang report on me
                                        2] people start blaming each other for my feeding (so probably some of them could waste reports on that)
                                        3] I didnt abandon single game which was always easiest/fastest way to end up in lpq
                                        4] I believe valve cleared lpq history and past reports from all accs - before first lpq removal i mentioned in this thread http://dotabuff.com/topics/2014-01-08-did-i-miss-something-lpq-removal
                                        it took 1/2 max 3 ruined games if i threw in subtle way to place me in LPQ

                                        Woof Woof

                                          Zero

                                            I've left a total of 22 games on an alt account within 5 days and no LPQ. ^_^

                                            Woof Woof

                                              post link to that alt here so Relentless could/can add it to his thread on devs forum

                                              Luxon

                                                Valve seriously pays more attention to hot threads on Reddit rather than their dev forum.

                                                Sup m8

                                                  Wow...some people on these forums make me sad. They enjoy ruining other peoples games and wasting other peoples time. How can I help support you relentless?

                                                  Mia

                                                    ^

                                                    Relentless

                                                      Just support my thread on the development forum and ignore the troll. Only lots of traffic on the dev forum might attract Valve's attention to actually fix the problem.

                                                      That is, unless someone here knows a Valve employee to whom they can mention this problem.

                                                      Or if you think Reddit is the way to go, by all means post there too.

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                                                      Yoshi

                                                        Im not sure Valve will do anything unless their budget is threatened.
                                                        See how they reacted fast on the diretide crap.
                                                        So unless there's a mass game leaving/negativity spreading that could hurt their economy they wont do much.
                                                        In fact I'm pretty sure they have already a plan set in stone on how to develop the game that will only slightly change for the facts mentioned above.

                                                        I'll gladly support but I don't expect much from them, they know the actual problems of the game still look what they've done to the MMR system

                                                        ***EDIT***
                                                        Was the post just closed? i see a "closed thread" indication top and bottom of the post

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                                                        Woof Woof

                                                          ^ L O L : DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

                                                          at least valve gave people enough control to choose which hud they want to use

                                                          btw Relentless did mod tell you why did he close your thread?

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                                                          Relentless

                                                            No explanation was given. Maybe Valve just closes all threads I make on the development forum. At least this time they did not threaten to ban me... but if they close every thread I make its the same thing.

                                                            I can only imagine that what was suggested in the thread is accurate ===> Valve turned off LPQ until February. But they don't want to admit it.

                                                            I guess we wait for server maintenance to end and see if its fixed then. In the meantime, 5 stacks or expect throwers.

                                                            One positive result: closed thread means at least 1 admin read it. It is possible that Valve has now recognized that there is a problem.

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                                                            Fay

                                                              i already banned twice on that website lol, bl me

                                                              Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                                The dev.dota2.com forum is for devs only. To report bugs which are almost never fixed. Asking for banning and hero balanced shouldn't be on there. You will be banned if you ask too much of them.

                                                                Yoshi

                                                                  @Relentless
                                                                  The post was made in a polite way and i didn't notice any particular flame or bad behavior.
                                                                  I don't seem to grasp the reason for the thread to be closed.

                                                                  Well, time will tell if there will be any changes.
                                                                  I am just a bit disgusted by the lack of community contribution from Valve, the guys seem cold and totally uninterested
                                                                  We can only vote with our wallets by avoiding to spend money on their hats etc.

                                                                  jimmydorry

                                                                    Various bugs I have pointed out (like not being able to mute people while game is paused), get moved out of bug sections into community and general sections. If the volunteer mods don't like you or your post, expect to be censored. Kind of funny if it wasn't sad...

                                                                    frostychee

                                                                      Damn, so people are intentionally throwing games and they don't get put in LPQ? I left one game and was not able to reconnect due to a power outage, and I had to play through 5 games to get back into ranked. It was probably my first leave in several months as well. Where's the justice in throwing the guy with 1 random disconnect into LPQ compared to the dude feeding 3x games in a row with furion?

                                                                      Sōu ka

                                                                        seems like the fact that you actually make people lose 50 points makes this shit a lot more appealing

                                                                        Relentless

                                                                          SECRET PATCH!!! today from Valve.

                                                                          be warned LPQ is working again!

                                                                          6_din_49

                                                                            Wohoo! Ninja fix! :D