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Donald Duck

    Hi all, i'm wandering if someone wants to watch this match:

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/352231366

    I did fairly well imo, but I know that I made a lot of mistakes. I'm not talking about the LH, but the poor decisions into the game.

    Can you help me and tell me what I should've done in that specific situation? Or if I did well?

    Sorry for my bad English, I hope someone will pick up this quest. :)

    swoleytrinity

      I will have a look later.

      Silvers

        Well, im so bad at dota, so i might be mistaken, but just by looking at your itembuild and opponents skills... No bkb? They have multiple silences, just a manta wont be enoough. And the dp got a sheep stick. A basher is nice and all, but a 35% evasion for bfly makes it pretty less efficient. But dont mind me, wait for some serious responses.

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        AddidasБатка

          your suppors rly bad hex>aghanim any time on support

          AK

            @ silvers have you considered taking some anti pms pills? or cranberry juice, heard it works wonders for the period

            Silvers

              I wanted to stress that as well- your team has no real lockdown at all. And i agree completely with hitt- your supports should have already bought some sheep sticks- the game was very, very long. Unfortunately, your mates went some crazy ass builds instead (shadow blades and aghanims on both silencer and bane... That a lost of wasted money).

              Quick maffs

                I think you needed mkb instead of basher. Maybe bkb instead of heart too ( bad item against lifestealer in my opinion ).

                Quick maffs

                  ^Silver i know his supports didnt really helped. But people say that if you play normal braket you should be able to stomp every game without the help of the team sooooo....

                  Some games i really dont know what i could have done to win the entire game for my team you know .....

                  Silvers

                    I play in normal bracket. I play supports 95% of time. Cant imagine myself stomping anyone with jakiro or leshrack. The problem is, that i belong to the normal bracket and i accept that. I dont feel the need to pick slark or any other stomping hero.

                    What i see in various situations (in normal bracket) is that people tend not to talk with each other at all- sometimes just pointing out some minor flaws in your teammates' gameplay may work wonders (turn off basi ring, dont push the lane, dont get greedy with starting items, utilise your hero, keep farming, lets back off etc.). If you see a need, that one of your friends should be going for a certain item, you start talking about what he is about to spend his money on. There is a chance, that they will tell you to fuck off ofc- this is dota.

                    Donald Duck

                      Talking about bkb, I bought the heart cause I thought I was too squishy, I didn't thought about bkb and here's my first (I guess) mistake. Ty for all the comments ;)

                      Terrible

                        Heart was fine, even with Na'ix in the match the other team has way too much DPS (Na'ix/SF/Luna) for you to not get one, but you really did need to have a finished Abyssal Blade and an MKB too. You needed to farm a lot quicker, you will find that most people are able to finish 6 slots around the 40 minute mark (~750GPM), so its hard to say much if you can't get the job done in an hour long match.

                        Anti-Mage peaks mid-late game because he has a farm advantage, after that, other heroes begin to catch up and pass him in terms of effectiveness, and he is also horrible against multi-core teams later on. So even if you did farm well, you probably wouldn't win the game unless you could actually take a rax or two around the 40 minute mark.

                        Akhlore

                          I didn't look at the game and I'm not very good or anything but I'd say 60min+ against 3-4 carry and a semi-carry lineup is though. I think you made a strategical mistake by hitting creeps for too long, even though you're AM. I'd pick up an early vlads or something and try to get my teammates to push, late game where all are ~5-6 slotted there is no way to win with that composition anyway. Also I don't think the BKB was the main issue, both DP and BS ults go through so BKB is less useful anyway (not that it's bad after 2 sheeps from enemy but I'm assuming by that point you already lost the game tbh). I think if your supports went sheep, maybe 1 linkens (to give the buff to you to stop BS ult) and you tried pushing earlier you could have won.

                          Donald Duck

                            Another question: I didn't make bfury, cause I know I'm bad at LH. Was that a good choice to go straight to manta?

                            Terrible

                              If you can't last hit, don't play Anti-mage at all. He is a hero that relies on dominating mid game with a big gold advantage, even the more aggressive builds focus on building Battlefury -> Manta at the minimum before doing much else.

                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/354341529

                              I'd really advise that you learn to farm, its not difficult at all, and in most matches in the safelane you should be somewhat uncontested, and it will allow you to win most of your matches very easily.