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General Discussioncan someone analyze this game?

can someone analyze this game? in General Discussion
iskinitang puke

    how can i win this game? https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4216019777 anything will be appreciated.

    iskinitang puke

      anyyyone?

      Player 123655765

        I think you should've bought BKB. Echo then BKB? Profit?

        ScottishJabz

          34 min game, 1 ward placed . I think vision may have been one of the many fundamental issues..

          BKB here i'm not sure would have won you the game especially if CK chose reality rift through BKB. The problem is you had 3 greedy cores (Sven, AM and Sniper), a jungler (still post-6.80???) and no support. What should have happened (assuming the draft remained), WK should have went support with AM.

          Sniper / You should have laned with Sven (if it was you, there would have been two solid stuns there).

          iskinitang puke

            i am with sniper on mid and he do nothing stand there leeching xp. while the ogre stays on mid cause i rekt mid. sven lost to wr 1on1 lane and ck pretty fat tho.

            Gssaikone

              What's there to comment on when it's obvious in that bracket people pick whatever they want and play however they want. Dota is not and never will be a 1v5 game.

              TokyoTokyo

                Drow + Ogre, if given the opportunity of team wipe and no buyback, this will led to T3 push. don't underestimate drow strat.

                shady_stuff

                  as potentially the least greedy core on your team, make space for them to farm, no mater how shitty they are. Cut waves and push towers, buy items that allow u to push aggressively like shadow b or bots, and in the situation where u have dual mid is a horrible mistake. if sniper wants mid just go bot. a sven solo offlane will get kicked ass, no wonder the wind got fat af. its a lot more ur fault than u think. u also had some questionable item choices. going for a maelstrom really sucked, neither is not gettng bkb. ur itemizatoin should be sb-echo-bkb-abyssal- and then ur luxury items. not going for a maelstrom, which is incredibly bad. U do not need to farm because that is not ur job, ur job is to create space on ur team cuz u are the most ahead. Monkey cannot snowball by himself. u tried to attempt this, and died... u actually fed the enemy team the most in terms of xp and gold because u were so far ahead and just fed it all. in short, there are lots of things u could improve on.

                  MuLLi

                    U should ask AM + Sniper to build Echo sabres and then u will be team of Echo

                    Really none could farm at your team. Learn to play ward bitch for games like this

                    Suck my tiny curry dick

                      You played well. Keep that up and you’ll eventually hit 9k mmr

                      Androgynous

                        sounds like the only thing you care about is whether or not you're having a good game and not whether your team is having a good game.

                        i'd agree with the suggestion that you play a roaming mk so that instead of having an splitting farm with sniper and leaving sven solo you end up with potentially 3 or 4 heroes that are useful instead of 1 - sniper gets to have a game because you're supporting, and so does sven because he isn't left alone vs windrunner and ogre, you're still useful with less farm priority and if early game goes well you can also help AM vs the CK.

                        there aren't enough creeps on the map for everyone to get farmed so if you want to win just accept when your hero can function with less farm than your teammates heroes so that you don't end up with 4 players that aren't able to play their game just because you wanted to do well. having this mentality is going to win you a lot more games than trying to 1v5 every game if you're not several thousand mmr above your opponents.

                        Androgynous

                          p.s even on core mk the tree dance cast range is often better because you get so much more mobility which helps with everything - farming, pressing lanes, finding kills, escaping and so on.

                          I don't play mk at all so don't blindly take my advice but you can see ingame in divine+ bracket the tree dance range is picked up much more often compared to the other skill brackets, has better winrate across all brackets but also significantly higher winrate compared to the jingu talent in divine+.